 | Autocontradictorio of Bible 5
Author :Chang Kai-Chi
Genesis 005
5:1 This is the written account of Adam’s family line.When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God.
5:2 He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created.(Since God created people and blessed them, why did God drive them out of the Garden of Eden after they made a small mistake?)
5:3 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth.
5:4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:5 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.(In 2:16 and 2:17, God told him to say, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.” As a result, Adam died 930 years old. Obviously, God has miscalculated, or God lie to deceive "people.")
※In this question, it is quite weird. God warned in chapter 2:17 that Adam could not eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil, because he would die if he ate, but then Adam and Eve ate because of the temptation of the snake. In chapter 3:22; God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil, He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” if Adam and Eve even picked up the fruit of the tree of life, would they die? If they will still die later, then what God said in 3:22 must be a lie. If they didn’t die, what God said in verses 2:16 and 2:17 must be a lie. It seems that God didn’t wish people have the same abilities of good and evil and immortality as he did, so he will deceive Adam in advance to prevent him from eating the fruits of the two trees.
※ Derived question: If the fruits of the good and evil trees and the tree of life were not for people to eat, then for whom? For God or Gods to eat? If God wants to eat it, and people were not allowed to eat it, why should it be planted in the Garden of Eden, can the Almighty God not create a special garden to plant? Why did God clearly know (if He didn’t know, the he is not a omniscient god) that people are pure and ignorant and easy to be deceived, but God still plant the tree of good and evil and the tree of life in the Garden of Eden, and give the snake a chance to induce Adam and Eve to sneak out the fruit of the tree of good and evil, thus violating his ban? Since God had the ability to create people and know everything, he should fully understand the "people" he created. He should understand that people were not Gods, and people had great weaknesses. As a result, people "surely" cannot resist temptation and against his ban. God should take responsibility of his own mistakes.
※So, the reason why God cursed Adam and Eve and their descendants, and drove them out of the Garden of Eden. God became angry from embarrassment. Did the Almighty God make such mistakes? Is it ridiculous that God made a mistake and could not take it, but instead pushed the fault to the a low-powered "people"?
5:6 When Seth had lived 105 years, he became the father of Enosh.
5:7 After he became the father of Enosh, Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:8 Altogether, Seth lived a total of 912 years, and then he died.
5:9 When Enosh had lived 90 years, he became the father of Kenan.
5:10 After he became the father of Kenan, Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:11 Altogether, Enosh lived a total of 905 years, and then he died.
5:12 When Kenan had lived 70 years, he became the father of Mahalalel.
5:13 After he became the father of Mahalalel, Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:14 Altogether, Kenan lived a total of 910 years, and then he died.
5:15 When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he became the father of Jared.
5:16 After he became the father of Jared, Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:17 Altogether, Mahalalel lived a total of 895 years, and then he died.
5:18 When Jared had lived 162 years, he became the father of Enoch.
5:19 After he became the father of Enoch, Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:20 Altogether, Jared lived a total of 962 years, and then he died.
5:21 When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah.
5:22 After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked faithfully with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters. (Why did Enoch walk with God? Was God afraid of loneliness, and need someone to be companion?)
5:23 Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years.
5:24 Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.(The other guys lived about seven or eight hundred years old. Enoch only lived 365 years old. It seems that someone not lived with God was able to live longer.)
5:25 When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he became the father of Lamech.
5:26 After he became the father of Lamech, Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:27 Altogether, Methuselah lived a total of 969 years, and then he died.
5:28 When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son.
5:29 He named him Noah and said, “He will comfort us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the LORD has cursed.” (Isn't the ground created by God? why did God want to curse?)
5:30 After Noah was born, Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters.
5:31 Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 777 years, and then he died.
5:32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.
以聖經之矛攻聖經之盾005
作者:張開基
翻譯員:某君
創 世 紀 Genesis 005
5:1 亞當的後代、記在下面。當 神造人的日子、是照著自己的樣式造的、
5:2 並且造男造女、在他們被造的日子、 神賜福給他們、稱他們為人。(神既然創造了人,又賜福給他們,為什麼只為了犯了一點小錯就把他們趕出伊甸園?)
5:3 亞當活到一百三十歲、生了一個兒子、形像樣式和自己相似、就給他起名叫塞特。
5:4 亞當生塞特之後、又在世八百年.並且生兒養女。
5:5 亞當共活了九百三十歲就死了。 (在第2章第16、17節中;神吩咐他說、園中各樣樹上的果子、你可以隨意吃.只是分別善惡樹上的果子、你不可吃、因為你吃的日子必定死。結果亞當活了九百三十歲才死,顯然,神又估錯了,不然就是神也是會說謊騙「人」的。)
※在這個問題上其實蠻吊詭的,神在第2章第17節警告亞當不可吃分別善惡樹上的果子,因為吃了會死,但是,後來亞當夏娃因為受了蛇的引誘還是吃了,在第3章第22節中;神說、『那人已經與我們相似、能知道善惡.現在恐怕他伸手又摘生命樹的果子吃、就永遠活著.』試問;如果當時亞當夏娃連生命樹上的果子也摘來吃了,那麼他們會不會死?如果後來還是會死,那麼神在3章第22節中說的必定是謊話,如果因此不會死,神在2章第16、17節中說的必定是謊話,不過看來應該是神不願意人和祂一樣擁有分別善惡和永生不死的能力,所以才會在事先說謊欺騙亞當,以阻止他去吃那2棵樹上的果實。
※衍生問題:如果分別善惡樹和生命樹上的果子不是要給人吃的,那麼是要給誰吃的?神或者『神衹們』要吃的嗎?如果是神自己要吃的,又不準人吃,為什麼偏偏要種植在伊甸園裡,全能的神不能再創造一個專用園子來栽種嗎?為什麼「明明知道」(祂要不知道,就不是無所不知的神了)人是純潔無知又容易上當受騙的,卻還是把分別善惡樹和生命樹栽種在伊甸園裡,又讓蛇有機會來引誘亞當夏娃忍不住偷吃了分別善惡樹上的果子;因而違背了祂的禁令?神既然有本事創造人,又是無所不知的,對祂所創造的『人』就應該是完全了解的;應該了解人不是神,人是有很大弱點的,結果人「果然」禁不起誘惑而違背祂的禁令,神自己犯的錯誤才更大吧?
※因此,後來之所以會詛咒亞當夏娃和他們的後代,並且把他們趕出伊甸園,應該是神自己惱羞成怒吧?全能的神也會犯錯嗎?神犯了錯不能反省,反而把過失全推給這麼低能的『人』,這不是很荒謬的嗎?
5:6 塞特活到一百零五歲、生了以挪士。
5:7 塞特生以挪士之後、又活了八百零七年.並且生兒養女。
5:8 塞特共活了九百一十二歲就死了。
5:9 以挪士活到九十歲、生了該南。
5:10 以挪士生該南之後、又活了八百一十五年.並且生兒養女。
5:11 以挪士共活了九百零五歲就死了。
5:12 該南活到七十歲、生了瑪勒列。
5:13 該南生瑪勒列之後、又活了八百四十年.並且生兒養女。
5:14 該南共活了九百一十歲就死了。
5:15 瑪勒列活到六十五歲、生了雅列。
5:16 瑪勒列生雅列之後、又活了八百三十年.並且生兒養女。
5:17 瑪勒列共活了八百九十五歲就死了。
5:18 雅列活到一百六十二歲、生了以諾。
5:19 雅列生以諾之後、又活了八百年.並且生兒養女。
5:20 雅列共活了九百六十二歲就死了。
5:21 以諾活到六十五歲、生了瑪土撒拉。
5:22 以諾生瑪土撒拉之後、與 神同行三百年.並且生兒養女。 (為什麼要與神同行?神很怕寂寞,需要有人作伴嗎?)
5:23 以諾共活了三百六十五歲。
5:24 以諾與 神同行、 神將他取去、他就不在世了。 (其他人都活了七、八百歲,只有以諾活了365歲,看來還是不要與神同行比較能夠長命千歲)
5:25 瑪土撒拉活到一百八十七歲、生了拉麥。
5:26 瑪土撒拉生拉麥之後、又活了七百八十二年.並且生兒養女。
5:27 瑪土撒拉共活了九百六十九歲就死了。
5:28 拉麥活到一百八十二歲、生了一個兒子、
5:29 給他起名叫挪亞、說、這個兒子必為我們的操作、和手中的勞苦、安慰我們.這操作勞苦是因為耶和華咒詛地。(地不也是神創造的嗎,神吃飽沒事幹嘛要詛咒地?)
5:30 拉麥生挪亞之後、又活了五百九十五年.並且生兒養女。
5:31 拉麥共活了七百七十七歲就死了。
5:32 挪亞五百歲生了閃、含、雅弗。
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