 | Taiwan Ghost Research Chapter 20—The man’s appearing in other’s dream led the body finding
Author :Chang Kai-Chi 張開基
translation:北展昭
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This is very important reference information for exploring "ghost research" and it is the most recent news. Let us discuss it in details.
Finding a Drown Body via Dreaming
[United Newspaper reporter Jian Xianzong / Yuli report] July 28, 2009 news
In Zhuoxi Xiangmin (Hualien County), Mr. Huang Taiguo disappeared after being around Fengping River and the body was salvaged in the Xiugutun River in Sanmin Section of Yuli Town. During police officers’investigatiion yesterday, relatives of the deceased revealed that Huang Taiguo was missing and his family could not find it. Before the salvage, the deceased had appeared in the dream indicating the locations of the corpse and looked for help.
The deceased of Huang Taiguo, together with Wu Fufu, both were the Guangfu villager who was found in Xiuguluan, in the Sanmin section, were handed over to the forensic team yesterday. During police work, the relatives of Huang Taiguo indicated that the deceased often went to Fengpingxi to swim. At 11:00 on the 18th, the daughter-in-law took him to the No. 2 Bridge of Fengpingxi(the tribe area of Zhuoxi Township) for swimming. His original intention was to land from the first bridge 300 meters downstream, unexpectedly the flooding of Fengping River, he disappeared immediately after entering the water.
The body of Huang Taiguo was found in Yugu Town, Yuli Town, 10 kilometers away. The police judged that the Molafi typhoon brought the heavy rain in the mountainous areas caused the water level to rise. And Huang Taiguo was in Fengpingxi River in Zhuoxi Township -- after river rushing away then into the downstream of Xiuguuxi River and further to the bank of the Sanmin section. Huang was stuck in the gap between the wave neutralization blocks about 1.5 meters water depth.
His relatives said that after Huang Taiping’s disappearance, his family launched relatives and friends to cooperate with the police for many days searching. Then Huang’s wife dreamed of her husband’s help in the night on the 25th: “My feet are stuck, it’s so painful, I can’t pull it out, come and save me!", Huang's wife asked "Where are you?", Huang Taiguo replied, "I am approaching Chunri."
Su Guangmin, the agent of the Sanmin Fire Brigade of the County Fire Department, led the team members, Gao Jianxiong, You Mingxin, Tian Chuanyang, Chen Yuming and others. They salvaged the body of Huang Taiguo in the early morning and found that his left foot of the deceased was really stuck in the gap of blocks.
The relatives of the deceased said that the location of the body on the Zuogutunxi Sanmin section was not far from the Chunri tribe and the deceased did asked for help in the dream which made people feel amazing.
Question 1. "The location of the body found" is similar to the "place of the dead in the dream". Is it possible that it was just a coincidence?
Discussion: Basing on water flows from upstream to downstream, it is reasonable to find the body downstream. Although any downstream was possible, it was found in very close locations and the chance of coincidence might be still there.
Question 2. Continued Question 1's "Notice Dream", the wife of the deceased dreamed that the husband requested for help : "My feet are stuck, it hurts, I can't pull it out, come and save me!", the outcome did match: “He was salvaging yesterday morning” and “the body of Huang Taiguo came ashore and found that the left foot of the deceased was really stuck in the gap of the wave neutralization blocks”.
Discussion: This fact combined with the location was very close. The possibility of coincidence was low.
Question 3. "----Huang’s wife dreamed of her husband asking for help in the night on the 25th as "My feet are stuck, it hurts, I can't pull it out, come and save me!" ---
Discussion: The deceased was launched on the 18th of this month and then disappeared immediately. On the evening of the 25th, his wife dreamed that the deceased focusing on the last sentence: "--- Come and save me! 』
A. He did not say, "Come and salvage my body!" Instead, he said, "Come and save me!" It shows that he had not realized that he was dead, so he still asked for help!
B. From the noon on the 18th, the disappearance until the evening of the 25th-- he was asking for help; we can speculate according to common sense: the deceased disappeared immediately after entering the water, so the time from the beginning to death should not be too long like the ship wreckage accidents. If the drowning people drifted in the sea with life jacket and later died of hunger and thirst which may barely support for a few days or even a week? However, in the rushing rivers, washed away by the water, usually struggling for a few tens of minutes or at most one or two hours will get exhausted and drowned , it is impossible to stay for a few days without dying. Then, from the 18th to the 25th night, the dream happened after 7 or 8 days. It is assumed that he died on the 18th and the body was stuck in the embankment blocks 10 kilometers away from the place where he was swimming at the beginning. The distance of 10 kilometers wave neutralization blocks is not too short so it was impossible to conclude that he was struggling to save himself then the feet were stuck, or he had already drowned then drifted to 10 kilometers. However, according to experience, the possibility of the latter should be higher.
C. Then, since death had been so many days, why wait for 7 or 8 days before appearing in the family member’s dream?
D. When Huang’s wife was dreaming since Huang had been dead for many days, whether it was because of wave blocks or passed away for many days, why did he still say to his wife: "My feet are stuck, it hurts, I can't pull it out-----"? Could he still feel the pain of the body after death? Or was it just that the pain deeply imprinted in consciousness so it was a strong “hallucination pain" after death?
Question 4. If a person dies as a ghost, the ghost can appearing in the dream of the living and afterwards can confirm that the dream is true. Why can the ghost only use the "dream" way to communicate with the living? So why not use other means to deliver messages in the "awaking period" when people are not sleeping?
Discussion: When a person is "sleeping" (dream), the general sensory perception is in a semi-rest state, unless it is very intense stimulation (such as glare, loud noise, vibration, shaking, etc.), otherwise there is no special reaction, so it is not because of the normal sensory perception of the semi-dormant state that the "super-perception" or certain channels become more acute or clearer, so it is more able to receive the message of "Ghost Dream"? And he still don't realize his already death?
Therefore, psychic ability is not a minority patent but an instinct that everyone has. However, in normal life and waking state, the average person's "perception ability" is relatively slow, and the psychic person is more sensitive, or the average person. Or "the bandwidth is relatively narrow; it is difficult to just correct the frequency. And the "bandwidth" of the psychic is wider, or it is easier to adjust the frequency accurately. Yes or no?
Question 5. Some ghosts will also use the ceremonial ritual to "intersperse" to ask the family about their situation and even know that they have died.
Discussion: In this case of dreaming; the deceased is not like some flying disasters (such as air crashes, car accidents, landslides, explosions, etc.) that happen in an instant so that they cannot immediately realize that they have died. Huang’s initiative to swim in the water then realized the danger -- there will always be a period of time why he did not have any awareness of "final death" or he was struggling to save himself?
Or "death" is not as painful and categorical as most of us (or any other creatures) always think. In fact, "life and death" is just a type of transformation except for the long delay before dying, otherwise the rapid death may not even exists oo much pain or feeling. And for a period of initial death, there is still a "not too much difference" perception of the original world environment so Huang did not ask for help from the family for7 or 8 days after death and still feeling very painful for 7 to 8 days?
Secondly, since the deceased will "convey the message via appearing in other’s dreaming", why didn't he know that living people can't convey but only ghosts? Was he already a ghost after his death, but he unknowingly "floating" to home, seeing his close wife, taking the initiative and being a natural instinct for help?
When the deceased appeared in other’s dreams, he not only could describe his correct situation at the moment but also knew where he was (the body); (----Huang’s wife asked "Where are you?", Huang Taiguo replied, "It’s coming to Chunri"--- The location of the remains is Xiuguxi Sanmin section embankment, not far from the Chunri tribe -----), it can be seen that the ghosts have their own perceptions of the environment and the difference is that they do not know that they have died?
PS: Because it is a news event and related to ghost research, I use this change to bring forward for discussion. If there are other ideas, would add it later.
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